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23 Jun, 2009 02:41 PM
THE State Parliament has become increasingly incestuous lately with the cosy relationship with Labor, Fred Nile of the Christian Democrats and the Shooters Party passing each other’s legislation, no matter what the merits and the effect it will have on you.

It all began way back when Labor allowed the Shooters into State Forests to shoot feral animals.

That legislation lay there until Minister Ian MacDonald started to declare some forests open to shooters. One of the most notable was his opening up of Belanglo forest to shooting.

Most of the community would have preferred the Belanglo forest be dedicated as a memory to the beautiful young people who perished there as a result of a serial killer equipped to kill.

If John Howard did anything right I would commend his attempts to restrict the sale of semiautomatic guns after the Port Arthur massacre.

But to accommodate their friends in the Upper House, Labor last year passed the Firearms Amendment Bill which allowed, amongst a host of changes, the re-arming of thousands of people in contradiction of the firearms amnesty.

Why would they pass such legislation?

Because Labor could then rely on the Shooters to pass their evil Planning reforms, despite the Coalition’s attempt to send the Bill to a committee to evaluate

just exactly what the hurried legislation meant to us.

You will find out just how horrible Part 3A is becoming soon when the Regional Planning panels are stacked up to pass anything touristy over $5 million along the coast.

Last week Labor cashed in again when Lee Rhiannon’s Bill

to save prime agricultural land from the coal miners was voted down by the Shooters and one other vote - that of the Reverend Fred Nile, who was described by his former Christian Democrat member, the Reverend Gordon

Moyes, along with the Shooters Party as one of “Labor’s junkyard dogs”.

You might wonder why the Shooters, who have a farming

base, sold out the farmers. You might until you see the Shooters Bill allowing Game Council approved shooters to shoot native animals in National Parks.

Yes, I know you just read that again to check.

“Native animals” including black swans, ducks, teals, corellas, three types of kangaroos and anything the Game Council can get on the list, inside our National Parks.

Catherine Cusack, the Liberals and Opposition spokesperson on the environment, came out quickly, saying: “We totally reject the idea of shooting in national

parks and the concept of shooting native animals in national parks is repugnant to almost anyone.”

Local MP Andrew Stoner confirms the Coalition is totally

against the Bill in its present form.

Carmel Tebbutt’s office says the Minister for Environment and Climate Change will not support

the shooting of native animals in National Parks.

This you would expect from the Environment Minister, but she has not cut out supporting the Bill which would make the provision for any future minister of

whatever bent to open any national park to game hunting.

The Minister’s reputation for integrity is on the line here.

The definition of game hunting is unclear and there is provision in the Bill for almost anything to be included.

For instance, farmers have long sought, and obtained without too much trouble, licence to kill protected animals when they threaten their livelihood.

Not just kangaroos but also corellas, cockatoos, bats, wombats and dingoes. Farmers are always blaming national parks for harbouring all sorts of threats such as wild dogs, so perhaps we could see shooters hunting in

Limeburners Nature Reserve.

Limeburners contains possibly the most viable pack of 100 per cent gene test dingoes on the coast, probably in the whole of NSW. How a shooter will do a gene test on a dog running away from him is a mystery.

Out west we might even see Game Council-appointed shooters experiencing the thrill of taking down a charging wombat.

In the past we have seen animal activists like the PETA organisation trying to save black swans shot by duck shooters with highly effective shotguns but highly defective eyesight.

Minister Ian Macdonald set out an answer for that democratic protesting problem in his new legislation to remove any environmental study requirements for the Repco Rally from Tweed to Kyogle over National Park and

State Forest dirt roads and the provision to prosecute any protestors.

His friends in the Shooters Party took note of that and have included making it an offence for anyone to even approach a shooter to talk with him while he is hunting.

Forget about animal rights, forget about democracy. Macdonald is taking us into a brave new totalitarian world.

Labor is on a hiding to nothing on this one. The environmental movement is in an uproar over this and the general public will not stand for it.

But Labor needs the Shooters and the Reverend Fred to get the rest of their evil program up, so they will probably try to float a compromise of the shooting of

ferals only as a conservation tool, which will help the National Parks and Wildlife Service protect their native fauna.

Sounds all right to the general public perhaps, but let us take a look at this propaganda.

In the published work, “A critique by ISC policy officer Dr

Carol Booth of ‘Recreational hunting and its place within

Australia’, an issue of the Australian Shooters Journal,” the Invasive Species Council says: “Of all conservation NGOs, the Invasive Species Council has the strongest potential reasons to support recreational hunting on

public lands, for it campaigns for more effective control of feral animals.

But the council opposes recent moves to open up State Forests and National Parks to recreational hunters because evidence shows that recreational hunting usually does not provide effective feral animal control and creates a serious risk of worsening feral animal problems …

Conclusion: Feral animal control is being used as a justification by some State governments to open up public lands to recreational hunters.

NSW Primary Industries Minister Ian Macdonald, for example, told Parliament that “after habitat loss, invasive

species are the single greatest threat to Australia’s unique and treasured biodiversity,” and that recreational hunting was a “sensible option” to “help to eradicate

feral animals”.

The Invasive Species Council agrees that feral animal control is very important, but concludes there is no evidence to support the claims that recreational hunting is an effective or low cost option.

‘Outsourcing’ control of feral animals to ineffective recreational hunters will see populations increase, particularly if governments use it as an excuse to not fund professional control efforts.

There is also the very serious risk that governments are unwittingly creating incentives for maverick hunters to move feral animals into new areas and worsen feral animal problems.”

Wherever hunters have access to forests to shoot ferals the ferals do not disappear. Obviously the hunters have a vested interest in their survival. In fact they have a

voluntary code of not shooting deer, male or female, in each deer species breeding season.

There is an answer to the need to remove feral animals from the reserve system and that is through proper resourcing of NPWS and encouraging the work of people like Bernard Whitehead, who is already trapping humanely all sorts of ferals in the Maria-Limeburners area.

The most valuable contribution though would be in keeping the shooters and the Game Council out.

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This is a perspective article and right on the money.

If the Game Council was serious about feral animal control, they would: (1) not have a bag limit on hog deer - i.e., LIMIT hunting until the numbers build up; (2) not use stone age technology - these aren't just shooters, but bowhunters as well (what about a few spears fellas?); and (3) have farmers opening up their properties. Farmers know these guys are weekend warriors desperate to justify themselves with the laughable "Conservation hunting" tag.

Are they subject to the Trade Practices Act? "Conservation hunting" would have to be the dodgyest advertising claim going around.

Posted by nutwood, 23/06/2009 6:04:01 PM
That is the most sensationalist article I have ever read.

You don't seem to worry about a few facts getting the the way of you opinion.

That was a series of personal ideologies randomly thrown together in the disguise of an article. You should join the greens as they don't worry about facts either.

Your belief that by shooters shooting feral animals increases numbers is interesting, if that was the case we should be hunting endangered species to increase their numbers.

I really don't know where to start with a reply as you seemed to offer no solutions to the problem of feral animals in out National Parks, but I will try anyway.

The Game Council system of training and licencing hunters has been very successful and has reduced feral animal numbers.

The NPWS has tried to solve their feral animal problems but have been unsuccessful. By trialing the same system which works in State Forests there may be hope of reducing numbers without any added expense to the NPWS. The hunting of native animals in National Parks is not part of this bill as the protection of habitat and native wildlife is the aim of National Parks.

Posted by Chris, 24/06/2009 12:42:59 PM
Any wonder there's no byline on this piece. The first deliberate misrepresentation of the truth is the author's statement concerning the "re-arming of thousands of people in contradiction of the firearms amnesty."

The fact is that only law abiding firearms owners took the slightest notice of the original amnesty anyway.

These are people who have been subjected to the government's intense scrutiny and have been declared fit to responsibly own firearms in the first place.

The criminal element and poachers still possess their untraceable firearms.

To the next mischievous statement: "You might wonder why the Shooters, who have a farming base, sold out the farmers." I might indeed wonder why the term "sold out" was substituted for the words "propped up."

We go on. "In the past we have seen animal activists like the PETA organisation trying to save black swans shot by duck shooters with highly effective shotguns but highly defective eyesight." PETA annually kills tens of thousands of animals after failing to rehome them but fails to advertise this fact.

I would like to see some documented evidence of duck shooters killing or wounding black swans.

A waterfowl permit requires the shooter to pass a species identification test before hunting.

Then the shoots are closely supervised by rangers and police. Anyone targetting the wrong species is dealt with severely and quickly.

Next our anonymous author enlists support from the Invasive Species Council, in particular, "The Invasive Species Council agrees that feral animal control is very important, but concludes there is no evidence to support the claims that recreational hunting is an effective or low cost option. Outsourcing’ control of feral animals to ineffective recreational hunters will see populations increase, particularly if governments use it as an excuse to not fund professional control efforts."

Anyone see the caveat there? It's worth repeating. "Particularly if goverments use it as an excuse not to fund professional control efforts."

Confusingly, the ISC's webpage states unequivocally: "However, shooting can be used to supplement other more effective methods and skilled recreational shooters may be of assistance in such programs.

The Invasive Species Council commends their voluntary assistance where it contributes to achieving environmental benefits."

Since there is little or no implemented feral animal control in National Parks outside of 1080 baiting, I would have thought humane shooting the best answer to the department's prayers.

Have you ever seen or heard an animal dying from 1080? I wouldn't wish it on a greenie.

Posted by Sierra, 24/06/2009 2:01:42 PM
When did the brave, anonymous author of this dribble last walk through a National Park? I regularly visit a family property on the edge of a park, and the massive proportions of feral animals is mind boggling.

If NPWS don't have the money to perform eradication/control programs, then why can't volunteers help out?

The selective opening of some National Parks to Restricted Game Council licensed hunters can only be a good thing for conservation in this state.

I for one have noticed an increase in the numbers of native species in our local State Forests since the introduction of Game Council Hunters.

At one State Forest, that I hunted ferals in last weekend, I saw 5 Lyrebirds, 20+ Wallabies of different types, and numerous parrots etc that I previously had not seen due to the destruction wrought by foxes & feral cats.

If all hunters were encouraged to play a role in conservation many more native species would be thriving instead of being on the brink of extinction due to predation and loss of habitat.

What do the Greens & the opposition want to do about the increasing problem of feral animals in our Forests & Parks? NOTHING! That's right, they have no plan.

Ask them what they would do and they can't give you an answer.

Conservation is not about the emotion surrounding killing cute little feral animals, it's about the science of controlling these species so they don't negatively impact our natives. My concern in regard to the announcement of this bill is the lies being told to the public by the Greens and other extremist Animal Liberation groups.

They are claiming that this new bill will allow the wholesale slaughter of natives within the parks, which is simply untrue.

The only reference to natives being culled is in regard to CURRENT National Parks & Wildlife Service Policies involving selective culling of natives considered to be in pest proportions. The bill would allow NPWS to utilise the volunteer services of GC hunters to carry out these programs.

Obviously this would be in very limited circumstances and tightly controlled.

The mention of shooting of Kangaroos is being blown out of proportion by these so-called 'green' groups in other ways.

The current NPWS tag system for farmers to cull these natives is flawed; as the roos must be shot and left to rot in the paddock.

The new bill would allow a farmer to utilise the meat from the animal in a sustainable fashion.

Nothing else would change; it would still be against the law to shoot a protected native animal of ANY type without a NPWS permit! Anyone who considers themselves to be in touch with the environment is kidding themselves if they oppose this bill.

Posted by Justin, 24/06/2009 3:30:00 PM
Wow thats not a biased article is it.

Sorry but you need to get a grip on reality, parks Vic employ pay people to shoot feral animals.

Why not let the highly regulated feral animal control programs continue, its a lot cheaper.

Posted by sadf, 24/06/2009 11:50:33 PM
Whilst this article may raise some genuine concerns it also descends into speculation in regard to potential outcomes of changes to legislation.

Too many "maybe's" and "what if's". Certainly, we don't want increased feral populations, certainly we don't want random shooting of any species.

However, to tar all hunting and hunters with the same "irresponsible" brush is sensationalism at best and unjustified at worst.

The invasion of our unique habitats by unwelcome and unwanted species is a major environmental concern.

We must take every reasonable opportunity to address it, including responsible experienced hunters, who have a genuine concern for the Australian environment.

On another tack: The author suggests that the change in legislation has "rearmed" a section of the population that it is implied create a risk to the community.

This is far from the truth.

The legislation does not 'soften' the current law in regard to the acquiring of firearms in the first instance.

It simply removes a number of existing anomalies in the existing legislation.

Alarmist headlines make great copy, but they don't always tell the real story.

Posted by ronw, 25/06/2009 8:43:19 AM
Commonsense has prevailed.

Recreational hunting is kept out of our national parks, hunting of native animals for fun is not allowed and private game reserves full of feral animals are not permitted.

The Labor Government has seen the danger in working with the Shooters Party.

They should be congratulated.

Claims of conservation benefits by allowing widespread recreational hunting overseen by the Game Council cannot be substantiated. Lets take the next step and review the value in having a hunter-controlled Game Council.

I can't seen any real value.

Posted by Andrew Cox, 25/06/2009 5:20:51 PM
The Game Council, a public authority, pushes PR on conservation hunting using taxpayers money.

Now hunting native animals, a law proposed by the Shooters Party cancels conservation hunting claim as it was to be governed by the Game Council.

And anyway many know that shooters have been seeding the north coast with deer and pigs for years, as has been reported in the media.

Now the Shooters Party want private Game Reserves, read feral pest breeding stations to keep their feral 'game' stocks up on public lands up (yuck).

Shooters creep around the bushes at night and even don't know where they, so let's not talk about responsible hunting. Why do you think so many farmers don't like shooters on their land?

If its not this legislative deal, what other deal will the Shooters Party now want for supporting the Government's program? This dangerous political situation needs to be dragged into the full sunlight.

Its up to all of us to ensure that there are no secret deals.

Posted by Kanangra, 25/06/2009 5:23:41 PM
Shooting in National Parks?

I take my kids bushwalking in National Parks.

I go mountain bike riding in National Parks.

I go camping in National Parks.

Will the potential for high powered bullets to whizz around my head reduce my, and my family's, enjoyment of National Parks?

It certainly will.

Posted by James, 26/06/2009 3:40:51 PM
An innocent truck driver was killed by a stray bullet the other day in Sydney.

Im sure he wasnt the intended target.

Whats to stop this happening to innocent people in our state forests and now possibly national parks.

I say ensure government agencies have sufficent funds to undertake neccessary pest control.

The letting loose of people merely for bloodspot will considerably undermine any co ordinated efforts to remove feral animals.

Posted by Jim Morrison, 28/06/2009 11:06:40 PM

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