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We can't fish like we used to

03 Feb, 2012 08:15 AM
HINDSIGHT is a useful but worrying thing.

I think all of us wish we could have some of our time over to do some things differently.

It is good for our soul when we learn from our mistakes and resolve to do better in the future, but some of us struggle with reality and self-interest.

I spoke recently with Vic Ley, a diver of some 50 years and a past Australian spearfishing champion.

Vic told me he had dived and speared fish in the Great Barrier Reef and along most of the east coast of NSW into Victoria as well as overseas.

He was also part of the slaughter of grey nurse sharks with powerheads and even caught those sharks for aquariums.

I asked him how they managed such powerful animals and Vic said it was easier than you would think.

All you had to do was spear them through the pectoral fin and as they tired just lead them anywhere you wanted.

Vic said the wound usually cleared up but I shuddered at the thought of these trusting animals being abused in this way and, panic stricken, being taken off to an aquarium somewhere, then spending the rest of their lives circling a tank alone and looking for a way out.

I asked Vic if he regretted those days, having seen the grey nurse shark numbers plummet as divers killed dozens of these ‘labradors of the ocean’ (Bob Carr).

The sharks were maligned as maneaters without any evidence at all.

Vic said: “I do now, very much, but back then people thought they were maneaters and it was just what we did.

“It took a while to realize that taking whatever you wanted to could not go on forever.”

I asked Vic if he had dived at Fish Rock and he beamed.

“Yes, I first dived Fish Rock about 50 years ago,” he said.

“It is still one of the best dives you can do but not a patch on what was there back then.”

Vic began arguing for a ban on spearing and fishing at Fish Rock many years ago – and copped a lot of flak for it.

I asked him what it was like back when he began diving at Fish Rock, because some fishermen claim there is no damage being done by recreational fishermen there.

Vic scoffed at that idea and readily agreed he had been part of the problem until he woke up.

He said he had started out there 55 years ago by going out with a fisherman called Pedro.

“No matter where you went diving at Fish Rock there were grey nurses everywhere, you’d see hundreds of big jewfish, there’d be cod, groper, mangrove jacks, snapper and at different times of the year you would get the big cobia, yellowtail kingfish at 70 to 100 pound, schools of those butterfly cod,” he said.

“There would often be 50 to 100 grey nurses around that rock.

“There were a lot of big crayfish you don’t see there any more.

“You don’t see many jewfish there any more; you don’t see many black cod.

“You’d see cod ... you’d see 15 or 20 cod there, they’d live in a little colony and you’d see cod from 20 to ... I got one out of there 120 pound.

“They’re protected now everywhere but Fish Rock is their last stronghold and I’m not sure that is enough if they still let people spear and fish there.

“There were Queensland groper, I mean every time you went there you would see six or eight of them, but not now.

“Seventy to 80 per cent of the fish life that used to be there is gone.

“There were sharks and fish everywhere but they hammered the place until they killed it. Spear fishermen and fishermen did it; you can’t keep taking and taking.

“From the 60s on they did. They started to get better boats, better equipment.

“By bringing in bag limits blue groper are making a comeback because you can’t spear them anymore.

“The pressure on the ocean today is just unbelievable.”

Vic went to the world spearfishing championships in Tahiti in 1965.

Nothing was protected, and the best divers in the world managed just seven fish in the whole of the competition.

“The trouble here is that 90 per cent of the people don’t know what has happened around the world,” Vic said.

“They just don’t understand how many fish there used to be here and won’t have a bar of protected areas.

“How do you convince people we have to do something strong about marine parks now?

“I am dealing with spear fishermen and fishers who have been at it for 15 years and don’t know any better.

“They think because they can catch some fish now that is how it has always been and will be. Well it’s not.

“Maybe they think ‘he used to kill all those fish so why can’t we go out and kill the rest of them?’

“That’s the thing about Fish Rock. I saw it as it was and it’s dear to my heart.

“It’s the only area where I have seen such a mix of tropical and temperate water fish. I have been all over the Great Barrier Reef, the NSW and Victorian coasts but none of it came anywhere near what Fish Rock used to be like.”

I asked Vic what he thought could be done about the future of the critically endangered grey nurse shark.

Vic replied that you will not get all the sites where the sharks aggregate protected.

“You have to pick the most important sites. Fish Rock is the key; it is the one I wanted to get protected,” he said.

“If you try to get Brush Island, Mermaid Reef, Montague Island, Nine Mile Reef, Point Plomer, you can forget about it, but Fish Rock is the most important one.

“It has the greatest number of grey nurse sharks and black cod left on the coast.

“That is the one we should save with a complete sanctuary area around it. For everything.”

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Thank you John for publishing these important recollections and thoughts about the future of our fisheries. It just goes to show that you can't keep taking forever and that sites such as Fish Rock must be protected.

I love eating seafood as much as the next bod. There is so much of the ocean available for extractive uses, but if we are to ensure that our marine environment remains viable it is essential that we act to protect more of the ocean in no-take zones.

It's in all our interests to do this - our economy, our society and our environment depend on establishing more no-take zones.

Posted by coastal protector, 3/02/2012 12:51:26 PM, on Macleay Argus
With the netting going on in the river particularly in breeding areas { stuarts point etc} why wouldn't there be less fish around. It will come to the stage of NONE around if they keep taking the breeders. Only farmed fish!
Posted by chris, 4/02/2012 7:05:19 AM, on Macleay Argus
Fair enough, it could be argued that the marine life around fish rock is not what it used to be 50 years ago, but it cannot be blamed soley on fishermen or spearos. If you ask anyone who dived it back when it what at its peak im sure they would say that there was coral all through the cave. Why isn't it there now, not because of the fishermen its because of all the gases coming out of the divers tanks (at least 20 A DAY)- its killing the coral.

If an exclusion zone was to be brought in (which i dont think is the answer) we would need to exclude everyone from the rock.

Posted by diverdan, 4/02/2012 11:03:49 AM, on Macleay Argus
Come on this has to be a gee up right? Trying to blame the rec fisherman of today for events of fifty years ago is a bit rich. If there are any problems at Fish Rock these days it is all caused by the divers. I pay to fish there and the only thing I kill and eat is kingfish and these days there's no shortage of them. About time the divers paid to dive there.
Posted by Big Al, 6/02/2012 9:23:49 AM, on Macleay Argus
Come on, this is a true, real life account by someone who has witnessed change with his own eyes! I fish too but can appreciate that fishing is not what it used to be. If we want the next generation to fish we can not be as selfish as the last 2 comments. To answer 'diverdan and Big Al's' assumption on coral in the cave and killer gasses by divers here is a quick lesson on biology - coral needs light to live so coral in a cave doesn't really work and divers breathe air just like turtles, whales and dolphins. See kids high school is important. Intelligence is what is most endangered!!!
Posted by Fisherman Joe, 7/02/2012 9:43:07 AM, on Macleay Argus
Why do people think the only way to reduce fishing mortality is Marine Parks? Bag and size limits are the way to reduce fishing pressure, not locking up vast tracts of ocean to please the tree huggers and bunny lovers.
Posted by Shane J, 7/02/2012 6:10:09 PM, on Macleay Argus
The green eyed intelligence always misses the point. Divers might breathe in air but they breathe out corbon doixide, still Julia is putting a tax on that so they might stop doing it. The reason you don't see the marine life around Fish Rock that you used to is not because they are fished out it is because the divers scared them away.
Posted by Womans view, 7/02/2012 7:35:27 PM, on Macleay Argus
As a fisherman from the west of NSW I visit SWR twice a year with mates to fish and if its not bad enough coping flack from the 'locals' about catching 'thier' fish now have someone who many moons ago catch copious amounts of fish telling us that we fishpersrsons of today are to blame.

At least once we start paying carbon tax the ocean and the weather (hopefully) will be immaculant 24/7/365....

Posted by inland fisherman, 9/02/2012 8:15:56 PM, on Macleay Argus

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Pressure on the ocean: Vic Ley took this photo of jewfish and other species caught at Fish Rock in the early 1960s. Pictured are his dad Vic Ley Snr and Ron McKewan
Pressure on the ocean: Vic Ley took this photo of jewfish and other species caught at Fish Rock in the early 1960s. Pictured are his dad Vic Ley Snr and Ron McKewan

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